Defrag 1.91.12

1#  BorisXIV

Very nice :)

2#  Yotoon!

cool cool :)
So whats up with the earlier declared news like ELO or demo upload? Any progress with that? :)

Cheers!

3#  cLd

Woho!

4#  {c7m}

nice news! :)

5#  {c7m}

and btw [2337]r's time is lagcheated on dmp02_cheez (target_init lag at beginning).
please remove it)

6#  BorisXIV

I'm still for a reset of the fastcap rankings, these rankings are full of lagged times

7#  BorisXIV

sorry for the many comments, but an idea came to mind
why not integrade the records with possible lag into the oldtop?

8#  AL!EN

Agreed with reset all records.

9#  frnk

Boris I would like to know which fastcap times are considered lag since you think it's filled with sooooo many lagged times. Why would it only be fastcaps too?

10#  BorisXIV

It's not only the case in the fastcaps rankings.
The only fact is that these rankings have been grinded to the frames, which means probably more lagged times, also a time doesn't have to be a record to be lagged.
You can never know for sure which times are lagged and which aren't unless the impossible has been made or unless you have the demo and are good at recognizing lagged times.

11#  <hk>

There will be a poll about this issue.

12#  BorisXIV

that's good :)

13#  aadad

I'm fine with them being deleted, but I'm also fine with them staying AS LONG AS the lagged times get deleted. C7M reported the screenshotlag time of Rody 5 days ago and it's still in the DB.
Doing nothing is the worst of all imho :)

14#  like@boss

hey Boris, just because you can't beat a time doesn't mean it's lagged.

which recs do you think are lagged anyway? whenever someone asks you this you just close your eyes... cite some specific examples of times that are unfair and are lagged

...imo fastcaps has so few players that if you're not even in the top3 who gives a shit if you lagged...if they spent another minute they could of improved it...and so could anyone else (and if they couldn't would they really care at all about this sort of thing?)

15#  like@boss

Not to mention a decision to wipe all records clearly favors only those who have the inclination to continue playing defrag. Anyone who played in the last year to achieve times and develop new routes will lose their work, while others use their route on the "reset rankings"...pretty lame... I thought that was the whole point of registering an account...so you keep your achievements...

what are we going to have !oldtop1 !oldtop2 !oldtop3 ...

16#  frnk

delete wesp's lagged cp10 time!

17#  like@boss

i changed my mind, delete all times plz

18#  frnk

Ya I think it's a good idea to wipe all times and start fresh with the updated defrag.

19#  aadad

"delete wesp's lagged cp10 time!"

I waited until 1.91.12 is released so I can lag it to the bones.

20#  {c7m}

probly no one believed me.
Some noob says time on dmp02_cheez is lagcheated, but maybe a guy from 2337 found a shortcut or did it faster.
But why its still in the DB after w3sp proved it?:/
^5 > ^7 There may be maps with lagged times. If you stumble upon one of these maps, please tell us. We will reset them so everybody has an equal chance of being the best player.
Is that just written for fun?

21#  <hk>

It's not that easy. I can't delete times randomly just because someone claims it is cheated.
I have to ask for the demo via mail. Usually i get no answer, though. Then I try to reach people on IRC. And so on.

It just takes time.

22#  <hk>

I guess we just end up deleting all records on a map.

23#  {c7m}

it will be like recognition then.
i dont ask you to remove a half of DB times...
its very obvious i think, i saw online even how he did lagcheatt...
1st place: 0:04.792
2: 0:05.600
3: 0:05.648
4: 0:05.656
5: 0:05.672 ...
i dont want to proove anything, just a lag report.

24#  AL!EN

hk: ofc that you should do this, becouse if you allow to some kind of "report lagged times" we all end at acursing eatch other for lags.

.12 means no lags anymore so all wheeenes will be end exept for time resets with should be allso disable by mod as Q4RUN does - maybe you can convide CGG to add this ?

25#  <hk>

timer reset prevention is a descision the maper has to make.
Some maps are made for timer resets.

26#  frnk

"I waited until 1.91.12 is released so I can lag it to the bones. "

post demo then

27#  aadad

>> "post demo then"
no?=)

>> "It's not that easy. I can't delete times randomly just because someone claims it is cheated."
correct!

>> "But why its still in the DB after w3sp proved it?:/"
I don't know.

>> ".12 means no lags anymore so all wheeenes will be end exept for time resets with should be allso disable by mod as Q4RUN does - maybe you can convide CGG to add this ?"
lol! Reset all records yet again? TR is only the fault of the mapper if it's unintended.

28#  AL!EN

>>"lol! Reset all records yet again? TR is only the fault of the mapper if it's unintended. "

Ok lets leave TR, but i want forget about ANNY lagged time. That wipe will be last wipe because no one can lag times anymore so we have lagcheat free environment and that is something what this community need from the begging of DF online. Make some big news, tell newbies about benefits and clead database as fast as you can.

29#  like@boss

remis says you can still lag

ps, update this link:
Overdrivepc Forum: Trick Jumping (Quake 3)

30#  |PsY|blumen

remis also says lol sometimes

31#  aadad

@qwerty:
And santaclause exists...prove it or leave it :p

32#  like@boss

sorry i'm not in close connections with cheaters and have to rely on heresay sometimes...

33#  like@boss

any news on ELO? was a cool concept.

34#  <hk>

I have people kicking my ass even twice a day.
I will come up with the ELO soon.

35#  like@boss

would it be possible to check whats happening on the other servers from the console? something like !status or the like....could just show players connected to what server/map/etc =)

sometimes i like to see what else is going on, but dislike having to minimize minimize quake and check the site or my game browser...

anyone else agree?=)

36#  like@boss

!servers

37#  |PsY|blumen

niec qwerty

38#  uN*DeaD|ZERG (c)

delete all TR's LAG's records ! or cgg have to add ANTI-TR for q3 !

39#  EL_CHOLO-^[MeX]

I dunno if this is the right place to post this... but i can't log in into A51 server using my user name and password... it just says "*console* check above" but yet i didn't a problem login in here...??