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#11620 quote
I'm back. Did you all miss me?
@Nov 11th, '12, 20:25 posted by  TittenIgnition
#11619 quote
11669#Arcaon
MOTDOTY OF THE CENTURY

MOTDOTYOTC OF THE MILLENIUM
@Nov 11th, '12, 20:18 posted by  jorgen
#11618 quote
MOTDOTY OF THE CENTURY
@Nov 11th, '12, 19:45 posted by  ILGP
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11667#AL!EN-OB-Detector
11664#yourGn-OB-Detractor
let me put it blunt and simple


OMFG MOTD OF THE YEAR !!


Message of the day of the year.
@Nov 11th, '12, 18:38 posted by  lith
#11616 quote
11664#yourGn-OB-Detractor
let me put it blunt and simple


OMFG MOTD OF THE YEAR !!
@Nov 11th, '12, 17:30 posted by  AL!EN
#11615 quote
11664#yourGn-OB-Detractor
let me put it blunt and simple


<3
@Nov 11th, '12, 16:11 posted by  ILGP
#11614 quote
Thanks for a detailed answer, Arca.
@Nov 11th, '12, 14:57 posted by  
@Nov 11th, '12, 14:04 posted by  jorgen
#11612 quote
11662#My big brother

But the scoring system is stupid. Speaking about Formula 1 (if you started it), I gave the best example of scores for placings (like in F1 before 2010 or so, x10): 1 - 100, 2 - 80, 3 - 60, and so on...
wtf about 100, 71, 50?


This discussion is a bit old, but I'll put it simply.

The formula is (50 * 2^(((w + 1) - Rank)/w)). If you set w to 3, you'll get 100, 79, 63 etc. However, a value of 2 proved to give more realistic rankings for the DFWC 2010 finalists - kop4ik got a well-deserved win, and glm, Bazz and ZyaX got more appropriate ranks.

It is in fact based on the Formula 1 system, with the advantage that it's more consistent and less arbitrary. 100/71 = 71/50 = 50/35 etc; there's the exact same percental gap between all ranks.

penis fuG^ :-D
@Nov 11th, '12, 11:23 posted by  ILGP
#11611 quote
11650#Arcaon
11646#BerserK


The 12 finalists will be ordered by score, and the rest will be ordered by their rank in their eliminated round.

If DeX wins 4 rounds and gets -0.048 to Token_Russian on the last map, does he deserve his rank 2?

I don't hear Sebastian Vettel complaining about this!


But the scoring system is stupid. Speaking about Formula 1 (if you started it), I gave the best example of scores for placings (like in F1 before 2010 or so, x10): 1 - 100, 2 - 80, 3 - 60, and so on...
wtf about 100, 71, 50?
@Nov 11th, '12, 00:04 posted by  
#11610 quote
sup
@Nov 10th, '12, 23:53 posted by  fps*BerserK
#11609 quote
they need to do way instain arca

my pary are with berserker; i am truley sorry for your lots
@Nov 10th, '12, 22:11 posted by  like@boss
#11608 quote
11655#BerserK
11650#Arcaon

If DeX wins 4 rounds and gets -0.048 to Token_Russian on the last map, does he deserve his rank 2?


Usually the last map is the hardest one no? Because in the last round should be only the best players - based on round elimination. So if he can't be first on the hardest map - does he deserve to be rank 1? No.

If he has a first place on all the other maps, yes he does. The fact that the map is easy doesn't mean that the first place is. Furthermore a map is subjective - easy for some, hard for others. That's why the points system is better - it shows who's best throughout the cup, not just the last map.

I understand arguing about the formula, but about the system? NO.
@Nov 10th, '12, 14:04 posted by  Nzr0
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"In the team ranking the points of each member are added."

-- Ok. Just a little example: A team with average placement somewhere around 6th but the players are on different/worse ranks individual (rank 9, rank 8 = 6 + 9 = 13 points. 15 points average: 15x5=75 points ). The second team with average placement somewhere around 12th but one time from the team somebody was on 2nd place what means 71 points(+ some minor points for rank 10 ~ 16) will be in overall TEAM standings before the team with better team times? Hmmmm.

That's the last thing from me about this DFWC organization. Do whatever you want to do. Next time you should prefer poll about the ranking system. 90-95% of DFWC players do not read mDd board forum.
@Nov 10th, '12, 12:54 posted by  fps*BerserK
#11606 quote
Let us not fight over petty internet points. We are all happy friends.
@Nov 10th, '12, 12:39 posted by  ILGP
#11605 quote
11655#BerserK
11650#Arcaon

If DeX wins 4 rounds and gets -0.048 to Token_Russian on the last map, does he deserve his rank 2?


Usually the last map is the hardest one no? Because in the last round should be only the best players - based on round elimination. So if he can't be first on the hardest map - does he deserve to be rank 1? No.


Your argument there is stupid, even though I do agree that #1 should be #1 instead of #>1 because of earlier rounds.
@Nov 10th, '12, 12:33 posted by  TittenIgnition
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11650#Arcaon

If DeX wins 4 rounds and gets -0.048 to Token_Russian on the last map, does he deserve his rank 2?


Usually the last map is the hardest one no? Because in the last round should be only the best players - based on round elimination. So if he can't be first on the hardest map - does he deserve to be rank 1? No.
@Nov 10th, '12, 12:22 posted by  fps*BerserK
#11603 quote
This should works when Arcaon would using scripts, external programs and then he gives them to Titten... There's your nonsense.

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLOLOLPOL!@KPOIjpernh 'eh
@Nov 10th, '12, 12:22 posted by  TittenIgnition
#11602 quote
11652#BerserK
Btw Arcaon wasn't DFWC champion. And this point system is just set wrong and secure him the win already now.


Good god man.
@Nov 10th, '12, 12:20 posted by  ILGP
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Have I somewhere said that somebody is the best? Btw Arcaon wasn't DFWC champion. And this point system is just set wrong and secure him the win already now. That's what I have said. Just calculate it.

And stop bullshit about F1. In F1 isn't round knockout. In F1 it doesn't depend only on the pilot.. when you switch de la Rosa with Vettel - suddenly de la Rosa is the adept to be a champion. This should works when Arcaon would using scripts, external programs and then he gives them to Titten... There's your nonsense.
@Nov 10th, '12, 12:15 posted by  fps*BerserK
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11649#TittenIgnition
Elimination between rounds is how it should be.


Elimination between rounds is how it is.
@Nov 10th, '12, 12:15 posted by  ILGP
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11646#BerserK


The 12 finalists will be ordered by score, and the rest will be ordered by their rank in their eliminated round.

If DeX wins 4 rounds and gets -0.048 to Token_Russian on the last map, does he deserve his rank 2?

I don't hear Sebastian Vettel complaining about this!
@Nov 10th, '12, 12:13 posted by  ILGP
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Defrag is not car racing. This scoring system is stupid. Elimination between rounds is how it should be. The last round should be between four people in each physic. The winner of that is the winner. The winner of that need not win every previous round, or any previous round, but merely qualify for the final round. This is logical.
@Nov 10th, '12, 12:11 posted by  TittenIgnition
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Berserk... picture the F1 champion being the one who wins only the last race! MAKES COMPLETE SENSE. INORITE?
@Nov 10th, '12, 11:46 posted by  Nzr0
#11596 quote
11646#BerserK
11641#My big brother
What about scoring system? Looks stupid, and you can guess a winner even now.
Would be better like that:
1st - 100, 2nd - 80, 3rd - 70, 4th - 60, etc. 0.2 or 0.5 seconds should not separate players in 50+ points!

It's ridiculous - rules are changing after every round, like there were no experience from previous DFWC's. C'mon, admins.


http://www.q3df.org/board/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=425&start=20

Already told them the winners after introducing this ingenious idea. Dunno why HK didn't decorate them yet.

This dfwc what we were waiting so long for.. is as you say ridiculous. Not because of the maps, routines knockout system, but brainless decisions. I don't know how the "anti cheat" works (maybe just storing exactly keys and angles changes) but so far so good efficient as with no anti-cheat system. But the point system by Arcaon is the most stupid thing ever.

I say.. boycott this point system and play as usually and the winner of last round take it all. At least people will have motivation...


Everyone knows who the winners would most likely be, not because of some point system or anything, simply because they are the best. Doesn't take a genius to work that out.
@Nov 10th, '12, 11:36 posted by  lith
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11641#My big brother
What about scoring system? Looks stupid, and you can guess a winner even now.
Would be better like that:
1st - 100, 2nd - 80, 3rd - 70, 4th - 60, etc. 0.2 or 0.5 seconds should not separate players in 50+ points!

It's ridiculous - rules are changing after every round, like there were no experience from previous DFWC's. C'mon, admins.


http://www.q3df.org/board/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=425&start=20

Already told them the winners after introducing this ingenious idea. Dunno why HK didn't decorate them yet.

This dfwc what we were waiting so long for.. is as you say ridiculous. Not because of the maps, routines knockout system, but brainless decisions. I don't know how the "anti cheat" works (maybe just storing exactly keys and angles changes) but so far so good efficient as with no anti-cheat system. But the point system by Arcaon is the most stupid thing ever.

I say.. boycott this point system and play as usually and the winner of last round take it all. At least people will have motivation...
@Nov 10th, '12, 10:36 posted by  fps*BerserK
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11640#dS-kiddy
11636#TittenIgnition
He recorded the demo on dfwc03-1 with a renamed .bsp file.


Sooooo.,. how can i watch it? (a)


https://dl.dropbox.com/u/34855518/dfwc03-1%5Bdf.vq3%5D00.25.792%28grisly.Ru-vrn%29_7522.dm_68

The pinboard should automatically parse links. Seriously.

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@Nov 10th, '12, 09:35 posted by  TittenIgnition
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Are u fucking kidding me arca's broken demo? How abow vq3 1rst time? Hahaha i know dfwc itss free but this looks like. Bs to me

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@Nov 10th, '12, 08:51 posted by  >Celtic<
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@Nov 10th, '12, 01:40 posted by  Pan has a lot blanks in his nickname
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11640#dS-kiddy
11636#TittenIgnition
He recorded the demo on dfwc03-1 with a renamed .bsp file.


Sooooo.,. how can i watch it? (a)


ANONINE
@Nov 10th, '12, 01:34 posted by  lith