qwerty wrote:The game is practically dead man, so take whatever you can get from it. You might do well to keep this in mind :
In reality nobody is winning or losing in defrag - we all just essentially waste our time and try to enjoy whatever it is that makes us happy.
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eS-AL|EN wrote:Let me explain what i threat Defrag online playing and cheats stuff.
We all here are one small family with people who want to play with friends, share demos&routes and be happy to set good times. The whole thing for me is no different that online FPS 1v1/other modes playing. I also play Promode sometimes. Let me ask you: does it fun to anybody to play with a friend who suddenly use WH and AIMBOT and you lose 30 to -1 all the time ? That kind of things and those kind of person destroy all fun. With Defrag online playing is similar: why should i score some records when after some days it will be destroyed by some lamers with their helpers ? I don't care about the scores, but i don't take a please from being beaten by some CJ script kids. I'm telling you that is the same thing for me when i play with someone with WH and AIMBOT. Some people don't care about WH and AIMBOTS too, ok. But for me this is nonsense and if one of people who play Duels with me use any kind of helpers i will just stop playing with him. As i do when i found that one of them start to use some advanced automated Timer for Armors/MH/Powerups etc
eS-AL|EN wrote:Tell me what fun i take ? This thread is exactly for letting other people to having good time with their "Different formula" and "alternative methods" with for me is nothing less that a cheap methods to archive good results. Let their have their toys. I don't care, let them do what they want.
eS-AL|EN wrote:Do i feel threatened by people who invert all those hacks ? Well, because all of this stuff was hidden for so many years, yes.
I feel like an body builder who practice 3 years, and suddenly discover that almost everyone around him use steroids and when I'm asking them "Wtf, it's pure cheating" they look at me in strange way and say "What is you problem man, everyone use it ! You should also use it !" And the most discussing thing was that no one who use it don't see any problem with it. Maybe if 4 years ago everyone tell: hey, don't use mouse but keys and you can also do a cl_yawspeed scripting I also start to use it and don't see any problem with that now but i doubt. I rather think that i will get to the same conclusion that i tell everyone today: +left/+right binds/scripts ate semi-automated scripts and it is not an idea of Defrag and fair play.
eS-AL|EN wrote:I'm telling you again: if we allow +left/+right binds/scripts as the "legit" things then we should also allow full RJ/PJ scripts, auto-jumpers(och ye great news that even those kind of helpers exist) etc and the whole idea of Defrag will be pressing 3 keys: one for start, one for gain speed, one for do some automated tricks and wait for finish.
eS-AL|EN wrote:Thats what I'm talking about: fun. If someone enjoy doing bottled runs that is no problem for me. But let their have own playfield separated from people who play fair in greatest meaning of this word.
EDIT: You was accursed for using the same hack as Adrian did - tell me where it's fun now ? No proof yet, but can you just make statement ?
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