New Defrag Release

[Le another black niger]

May be show only 8 last cps in run and all of them after finish (two columns?)

[Pan has a lot blanks in his nickname]

Just show the last four checkpoint times and fade them out after a time. Maybe show them all when the run is finished.

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Where is iodf source code maintained? Or where can I get it? Please don't tell me not to ask, as Quake 3 is GPL and i'm pretty sure whoever made iodf didn't pay to license id tech 3.

[<hk>]

Please don't tell me not to ask, as Quake 3 is GPL and i'm pretty sure whoever made iodf didn't pay to license id tech 3.

I don't like your attitude. You should wait for people to actually deny you access before you accuse them of breaking the GPL.

Where is iodf source code maintained?

I have no idea what "iodf" is.
In case you are talking about Defrag. It is a quake3 modification written using the SDK. The SDK is not GPL.

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I thought ioquake3 has iodefrag now? Or does it not matter what exe you use? Is it not using it's own custom exe? How do you know I havn't asked anyone? I've asked several people on other forums and get told the same thing. I just want to see the way defrag handles cpm physics, as bg_promode.c that I found on google doesn't let you plasma ground boost, even though its the same physics. I want defrags cpm physics in a mod I am making.

I was under the impression Defrag had an ioquake3 exe that was custom made that lets you download maps from worldspawn. If its not, cool, I guess I was wrong. Sorry. Just sick of things being closed source for no apparent reason.

[<hk>]

I thought ioquake3 has iodefrag now?

You probably mean iodfe. It's not an official ioquake3 customisation. "run" forked ioquake3 and ported some dfengine features into it. The source is free.

I just want to see the way defrag handles cpm physics

iodfe doesn't tell you that. All the physics related stuff is part of defrag. That's the mod, not the engine.

bg_promode.c that I found on google doesn't let you plasma ground boost

That's probably the code "setup" decompiled. It's not complete. Or It might be the physics code of CPMA which is not the same. Defrag uses a beta version of CPMA physics. The code is not public.

I was under the impression Defrag had an ioquake3 exe that was custom made that lets you download maps from worldspawn.

Iodfe does that but is not an official defrag engine. The official version is dfengine. The source is free.

Just sick of things being closed source for no apparent reason.

In an interview with CGG he revealed his reasons for keeping the source closed.

[...] I was then considerably prone to open the source. To me, Defrag belongs to its community. It's ultimately the mistrust of the players themselves who decided upon the code's base fate, which stayed closed. The main reluctances were related to cheat and to the fear of seeing a multitude of forks.[...]

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Please don't tell me not to ask

based

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I have no patience and usually that makes me come off as a dick. I just really wanted ground boosting, but I guess that's not happening.

Thanks hk for the info

[Le another black niger]

simply modify q3 slick physics to be like on ground with zero friction and you are done
its adorably that somebody needs src for that

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Already tried that, but thanks anyways for your useless input.