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what punishment is appropriate for cheating?

Postby <hk> » Dec 19th, '09, 5:45 am

What cheat should result in which punishment?

As an instance i don't think mwheeling is worth deleting a whole account for. What other measures are out there to punish somebody for playing unfair?
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Re: what punishment for what cheat?

Postby AL!EN » Dec 19th, '09, 6:56 pm

Bot - lifetime ban+delete records
-128 - lifetime ban+delete records
psyhic cheat - lifetime ban+delete records :!:
modify the memory used by defrag during runtime of the game - lifetime ban+delete records :!:
replays runs at any degree of automation - lifetime ban+delete records :!:
scripts - lifetime ban+delete records :!:

Break rule "It is not allowed to change your view angles(direction the player is facing) with other means than moving the mouse." - delete records :!:
Break rule "It is not allowed to bind any actions that alter the movement of a player to your mouse wheel." - delete records :!:

Break rule "Do not script +moveup; +attack" - delete records :!:

Not being polite, respect others and be fair - ban for a week.

Are we clear :?:
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Re: what punishment for what cheat?

Postby remis » Dec 19th, '09, 7:11 pm

eS-AL|EN wrote:
Are we clear :?:


i lol'd
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Re: what punishment for what cheat?

Postby $$-albion » Dec 19th, '09, 9:19 pm

-O-Moy wrote:
eS-AL|EN wrote:
Are we clear :?:


i lol'd


Wow I guess Alien really hates haxx :p
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Re: what punishment for what cheat?

Postby hAIRLESS bEAR » Dec 20th, '09, 1:05 am

eL-bion wrote:Wow I guess Alien really hates haxx :p

I don't understand why though...he's polish and all polish people cheat. Or at least lag. Which is in some cases considered cheating. Lifetime ban + delete records please!

Nah but seriously I'd support something like this:

- Cheat using external program or anything other that is more complicated than just binding a button to do something, ban 6 months because of clear intention to cheat.
- Cheat using disallowed scripts/binds etc simple stuff, ban 1-3 months depending on the case. For example someone who just started to play could see someone say shit like "7bind mwheelup +moveup. oops, i forgot to press shift" and the noob probably would try "ohh, what's this, let's try" and get banned. Now that wouldn't be too fun. Yet still, trying new commands you don't know is always a risk and someone should be willing to understand the consequenses of their actions. So 1 month ban for stupidity should be minimum.
- Hack website to modify your records, ban lifetime.
- Come back while banned, double the penalty time set before.

I think deleting all records is just stupid. Only the proven to be cheated records should be removed. Banning is enough of a punishment.
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Re: what punishment for what cheat?

Postby AL!EN » Dec 20th, '09, 1:12 am

hAIRLESS bEAR wrote:
eL-bion wrote:Wow I guess Alien really hates haxx :p

I don't understand why though...he's polish and all polish people cheat. Or at least lag. Which is in some cases considered cheating. Lifetime ban + delete records please!

Who the fuck are you :?: All polish people cheat :?:

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

We have Av3k that is one of greater Quake player on the world, we have Draco with is one of greater Protoss player outside Korea and finally we have PGS aka AGAIN who win ESWC and WCG two times with the same team, not mention that NEO is best C-S player on the world ...

Indeed we all cheat ...

Speaking about lagging: I do not play online with ping higher than 50.

Anything more you want to say :evil: :?:
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Re: what punishment for what cheat?

Postby hAIRLESS bEAR » Dec 20th, '09, 1:26 am

Don't stress alien, it was intended as a joke. Or was it? Anyway, let's serve our 1 week bans now because no doubt we both were rude to each other!

eS-AL|EN wrote:Not being polite, respect others and be fair - ban for a week.
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Re: what punishment is appropriate for cheating?

Postby mc'avenGer » Dec 20th, '09, 2:59 am

Break rule "Do not script +moveup; +attack" - delete records\\

the binds like this one has nuthin to do with cheats
previously it wasn't banned and even dfwc players used it

Alien care's cheating that much not even playing on the server at all=)
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Re: what punishment is appropriate for cheating?

Postby khtti » Dec 20th, '09, 4:56 am

wheeljumps arent cheating unless you delete every rec set on a map with stairs before demo-day

replace 'wheeljumps' and 'stairs' with any of the new rules

you cant escape this truth, your suggestion to flag suspected times/maps is futile
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Re: what punishment is appropriate for cheating?

Postby AL!EN » Dec 20th, '09, 11:27 am

mc'avenGer wrote:Break rule "Do not script +moveup; +attack" - delete records\\

the binds like this one has nuthin to do with cheats

If there is no difference between doing it in normal way(pressing two keys instead of one) then ... do not use it ;)

mc'avenGer wrote:previously it wasn't banned and even dfwc players used it

It was banned since DFWC04 and every player who use it broke rules = ban from DFWC.

mc'avenGer wrote:Alien care's cheating that much not even playing on the server at all=)

Olympic Judges don't play at all 8-)
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