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Re: Ways to punish

Postby AL!EN » Jun 15th, '10, 7:52 pm

Ellie Goulding wrote:cheating is a nice way to get your records deleted, that is the current situation

It is the only way and i think that is bad. Bad because it is difference between deleting of selected records (people will keep only their 1st times) and deletion of the whole times. It must be a way to delete all times. I'm not speaking about deleting serverdemos/forum post/etc.

What do you think about deleting times once per year/half year/3 months :?: And a one month wait time for this ?
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Re: Ways to punish

Postby 742617000027 » Jun 15th, '10, 11:50 pm

Your posts get deleted when using cheats? If so: lol.
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Re: Ways to punish

Postby $$-albion » Jun 16th, '10, 12:36 am

742617000027 wrote:Your posts get deleted when using cheats? If so: lol.

Don't think so, only the times are deleted. The account still exists and is still playable I believe, so I guess one's posts ralso remain :p
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Re: Ways to punish

Postby AL!EN » Jun 16th, '10, 1:12 am

Account exist but it isn't playable and you lost aces to you forum account/post/ability to edit personal information.
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Re: Ways to punish

Postby <hk> » Jun 16th, '10, 11:30 am

Stay on topic.
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Re: Ways to punish

Postby 742617000027 » Jun 16th, '10, 11:49 am

In case you didn't notice: the recent conversation was all topic-related.
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Re: Ways to punish

Postby $$-albion » Jun 16th, '10, 11:59 am

eS-AL|EN wrote:Account exist but it isn't playable and you lost aces to you forum account/post/ability to edit personal information.


Oh didn't know that :D

Btw hk, it's pretty obvious what the community thinks about cheating :s temporary bans and permabans seem to be the best ways to punish them. Something like:

1st offence: warning + temporary ban + account deletion (of course :p)
2nd offence: permanent ban, no excuses. I mean if they do it a 2nd time, what would stop them to do it a 3rd time

Also the fact that cheating is 'allowed' as long as you don't log in bothers me :s But solving this would lead to instalogging when entering a server, which on itself will lead to a massive amount of multiple accounts :s and the mDd database would turn into minnies database :p
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Re: Ways to punish

Postby amt-morbus » Jun 16th, '10, 12:02 pm

$$-albion wrote:...Also the fact that cheating is 'allowed' as long as you don't log in bothers me...


So True!

Why do they have to cheat on a public server? Total show off's!
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Re: Ways to punish

Postby AL!EN » Jun 16th, '10, 12:05 pm

Yes, cheating while not being logged also bothers me. But it is small bad thing. I suggest that those people should be kicked by referee
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Re: Ways to punish

Postby Anyone_Under_This_Rank_Is_n00b » Jun 16th, '10, 12:52 pm

@*censored*:
It's funny how you persistently try to be the very active defragpolice or sth...especially due to the fact that you have only THREE logged times over the past 2 years paranoid idiot. How can not logged cheating bother you at all when you're not even on the servers? Interesting...
PS:Like it or not, but there are several ppl(people) that pwn you at cpm.1 by now.

@albion:
I don't see anything wrong with doing as you please while not logged in. Receiving a ban when someone does something harmless like checking the max rj height with a script? I also don't remember anyone complaining when they got to see setupji doing some unlogged bot runs 1 year ago. iirc gaz got 10+ specwhores when raping the botter's, who was pornstar by the way, times and no one whined, they were happy to see it instead tbh =)

Forcing login will result in massive amounts of multiple accounts, which they are nowhere close to dealing with it. Considering they already didn't do anything (due to laziness) when I reported most of the multiple accounts spotted by mself in 2007. Detecting multiple accounts and doing single permanent bans isn't possible (for them). It's easy to circumvent them and have several accounts undetected. They could do permanent bans over an entire IP range which most likely does affect all other ppl(people) in the same area/city.



PS:
Why bother at all? The entire cheat validation is useless anyways with some noob like hk in charge who doesn't even know physics, yet acts like he knows them in and out due to coding them himself. Nightmare moved on to other things in his life (m00m1n 4.0 if you like), the only reason why hk is still here is because he desperately needs admin rights to feel good. It's doubtful that you'll get rid of him quickly, unfortunately...let's just hope he never gets in charge of the defrag source code, lol.

[2337]w: Question: Do you even know cpm physics?
<hk> I think I'll go with "yes"
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